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*sigh* I guess people just get scared off by long stories nowadays. It wasn't allways like that, but I guess it changed at some point. Now all anyone wants to roleplay is some anime or movie setting, anything that they don't actually have to be creative for. And the ones that are original aren't, they're mostly furry oriented, werewolf/vampire knockoffs, or just your basic 'somebody evil is taking over the world' scheme. No actual thought ever goes into posts anymore. Characters have about as much depth as speed racer, and the same range of emotions. And why the hell does everyone have to have a tragic past? I'm don'e listening to some pretty but depressed elf bimbo whine about how her parents were killed whern she was just a kid, or, god forbid, about how they're chosen ones but they don't want to be. Oh, the pressure, I could just die, but I'm too happily anime based to actually contemplate suicide. And everyone's so god damn terrifyed of losing a fight. It's like heroes can't lose nowadays, but of course they can whine about how tough the battle was whilst feeding blatant and steryotipic romantic tension with another equally shallow character of the opposite sex. And then there's those idiots who demand to be evil. Why the hell would anyone want to be an evil guy amongst good guys? All they ever do is drag the roleplay down, and then whine about how we're not including him, even though he's just trying to kill us. Not to mention they've all got black hair and pale skin. How come bad guys can't be handsome blond studs? Why is it that everyone has to follow this narrow path that sets what each type of character must and must not have in order to be accepted? Why doesn't anyone bother to break the mold every once in a while, come up with a character that's truly original, that you poured your heart and soul into? A character so close to you that you worry about them when they get hurt, and cheer along with them when they reach their goals? Someone special. Special enough to be more than just some two dimentional cut out that walks around with a sword, special enough to be a person. To have needs and wants that you can feel them eminating whenever you type their name. To have odd quirks that you never really bring to light with other people, but you allways liked. To have things that you're dying to tell other players in character, and wish you could see the looks on their faces when you drop the bombs on them.

But who am I kidding?

It seems like I'm the only one left who really wants to roleplay. To me it's not just two people typing things that other people are doing. This isn't a game played with dolls, fun one moment then forgotten the next. I want to tell stories. I want a true story to flow out, so that writer's block just doesn't happen anymore because everything is as it should be. But nobody cares about that anymore. They just want to show off some gary sue they made up in all of two seconds, and powerplay to kill some monsters that weren't thought through.

I feel like the last of a dead species.

At least, a dying species. I've been lucky enough to meet one or two people who had the same passion I do. But each one of them has floated off for one reason or another, sometimes I was the one who drifted away. And I'm allmost certain that there's got to be a few people out there that care.

But I'll never find them.

Because they all shy away when they see the mess roleplaying has become.

They go off and find a D&D group, or Shadowrun, or GURPS, or something else to fill that hole that will never really be fixed.

I'm hoping, though, that the couple of people that I've seen to have talent here will actually listen to me. Because right now I'm on my knees, begging you. Please, please, please help me make roleplaying good again. Help me actually teach those who are willing to learn, and kick out those who aren't. If it can't happen here, then I'll make a website where it can. I just can't do it by myself, and I'm worried that noone out there would be willing to help me.

So, if anyone on this site has ever looked at another cookie-cutter roleplay and felt sickened and depressed as I do, please help me.

Help me save roleplaying.

Then again, I really don't expect to get any replies to this. So you can all just ignore me and go back to your Naruto gasp fests. Sorry for ranting in your way.
I'm willing to help save roleplaying, and not just because I'm a mod. I have a passion for roleplaying, and I hate how cliche some things are.

I understand where you're coming from with the limited depths. There are some roleplayers out there who're afraid to add a single bad quality to their characters, even if it's what makes them come alive. >.> It annoys me greatly when I see a personality that's: Bob is a nice guy. He is kind and generous to people, and will do anything to help his friend. That's fine and dandy and all, but in my opinion, the bad qualities are what make you rejoice when your character overcomes the bad parts of them, then if they're just perfect little angels who don't have any inner demons. Or, even worse, when they hardly have a personality at all, and they just follow along with what the other roleplayers do.

The tragic past is REALLY annoying. I can't say that I haven't done it myself recently, but when I do, it's usually just to add to their character or allow them to have certain skills. I hate the 'ZOMG MY TRIBE DIED AND NOW I'M ALL EMO AND CRAP AND I'LL COMPLAIN TO EVERYONE!!!1111111!!!!!!!'. What's the matter with a character that's just 'I grew up with a NORMAL life, and I went to school, and had a normal family, and had no tragic accidents.'

The evil part-also annoying. In a real life situation, if some bad dude were traveling around with a bunch of good guys, what would happen? BUH BYE BADDIE! Especially stereotypes. 'my characters lyk3 gozth so she wears blck all th tme!!!11!!' or 'My character's shy, but really nice and generous and perfect!'

And a few points not mentioned in the post:

Doesn't it also annoy you how some people put NO DETAIL WHATSOEVER in their posts? You try to make a good post, but you can't cause you don't know whether you're in a desert or on Pluto? Or you try to do something that adds to the plot a little or would make the characters react decently, but nothing happens, or they just ignore you?

Or, what really annoys me, when someone spends weeks making a roleplay, and when they post it, it feels up in a day, but then EVERYBODY TURNS INACTIVE! @.@

Yes, I would like to help save roleplaying.
I agree, 95% of the people I see roleplaying have the "tragic past" somewhere in their bio.

I'm not a good roleplayer, as I've only been in one so far (created by me and slowly dying -__- ) so I can't really have much of an opinion on this.
I'm probably one of the bad rpers so I'm sorry Catonic-kitty, I really do try to roleplay the best I can, but everytime I try to post it seems like my dad kicks me off computer. I agree on that, but my life is so boring so I make it seem like a tragic past only because I want memories, not just bad, but good too. I'm sort of a romantic rper. I like romance XD (I know what does that have to do with a bad past? well...hmm..it's hard to explain,if you really want to know Pm me and I'll tell you.) I have been getting better on my rping though just letting you know.
Thank you, Shuri-Kun. Man, I totally forgot detailed posts, that's probably the main killer of roleplays anyway. I had a friend called Madraykin at one point, and the roleplay we did had six paragraphs per post. It was the most fun I've ever had.

But anyway, I sat down last night and though about it, and decided to revive an old project of mine called Chimera Forums. I'm really looking for advanced roleplayers, but really, anybody who has any kind of experience with making skins, moderating, anything of that sort is more than welcome. Basically, I just stopped worrying about it when I realised all I had for it was a name and some half done smilies.

Don't worry, Neko. No, I don't really consider you a great roleplayer. But the fact of the matter is I started out with wolf roleplaying. WOLF ROLEPLAYING. I mean, it's more fun now, but unless you really know what you're doing it's some of the most shallow roleplay on the net. Everybody comes from somewhere, and you seem to me to be the kind of person who will be really good if you just keep doing it. You'll be welcome on Chimera, because I plan on making a training forum where less experienced roleplayers can learn. There's really not much to teach that you can't learn simply by reading other people's roleplays and experimenting.
So I hope to see you there once I figure everything out and make it look shiny!

So, may as well get this out of the way. Here's the address.
http://s3.invisionfree.com/Chimera_Forums/
Absolutely true.

Even I'm guilty of having a half tragic past on quite a few of my characters, and, not all of my posts are uber long, or completely make sense. Though really, whether your character had a tragic past or not would depend on the roleplay, no? For example, if your roleplay revolved around survivors of the end of the world (Random idea, I know it's bad. xD) their pasts would probably be tragic.

I wish you could've joined here earlier. You might have seen some of the best roleplayers on the forum before they left (Kevin, The Fluffy One, etc.)

By the way, though I'm not the best, I can work on skins.
Geez......Would being abandoned at birth be a tragic past?Not really,to me.It's true.In reality,I live a normal life,am still growing up in a normal family,go to a normal school,and live and outcasted,student life.I'm sorry if I don't roleplay well.I just started roleplaying,and the roleplay I created is being ignored.I understand you.i'm sorry if I upset you or anything.
No, you didn't upset me Chiko. The entire roleplaying community upset me. And most of the offenses are from people who claim to be experts.

Thanks, Pom. If you want to, I can give you a PM about what I was thinking. But I don't really need it to be anything spectacular, it would just be awesome if it was custom for our forums and nobody else's.
I joined the forum you made.I can't do anything abosoutely fantstic with HTML,but I'll try to help.My username is,as usual,Chiko.
Seriously, probably one of the worst things that happen is that some RPers, who start rps, let anyone join.

When you do that, you always end up with a crappy RP. Yes, there are some RPers here [I am guilty] that believe they are pretty good, but really..they don't even come close.

But I have seen worse. So try not to complain about this too much.
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